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This is a fantastic concept with lots of potential for helping make meetings/presentations useful. There's a post for this on elance: http://su.pr/2eHa5G .
Anyone interested in bidding on this?
Leor
Imagine the teacher being able to ask a question and instantly having their pad light up with green buttons. To ask a class to sketch an idea and post it - only to have a big screen light up with 20 - 30 thumbnails of sketches and the whole class can instantly see the results. Measuring the reaction speed to queries to see who is keeping up and who is falling behind in real time. Imagine the teacher getting 20 red buttons when they turn the class lesson into a boring exercise. The possibilities are endless for modern day teaching.
I've seen this tried so many times in so many college classrooms. Usually the teacher requires the class to buy some sort of "clicker" device (which costs $15 rather than $500) and the students can then respond to questions etc. Problems become immediately apparent when dealing with the lengthy setup time and getting everyone connected to the system, usually wasting an entire lecture purely on this. Teachers aren't IT admins and consumer devices like the ipad are flashy and fun but why replicate the function of a $15 device when it has already proved to be at most slightly beneficial as a tool. As a computer engineer, I love good technology, but good technology cannot replace good teaching. And a tool like this wouldn't be effective without good teachers using it right as opposed to a classroom plaything which allows the whole class to vote the teacher off the island. (Not to mention the massive cost of forcing whole college campuses to pay an apple tax to participate in a discussion).
Allow each meeting participant to input their effective hourly rate. That way, a cost ticker can be incrementing in the corner of each person's display. The unstated question would be: is this meeting really worth its cost?
All this talk of the talking pad and the ultimate presentation system is really cool. I wanted to put my head in the ring with the basic outline of how it could be related to the music and broadcasting sectors.
First the app could create the ultimate broadcasting platform with both audio and visual presentation so that radio and TV merge into one system and all mobile. This could also lend itself to the perfect platform for a band or artist to showcase their talents and present themselves to fans, to promoters, to labels (if they are still in existence by then). Te he point it that the devise becomes any extension of who the artist or band is in terms of creating an experience, at a show every member of the audience could receive the band or artists app and be fully engaged on-going with them.
This would be game changing for bands and artists and enable them to reach their goals and dreams.
There has been some talk about raising money and how much to charge. There has also been talk about making it an open source project or donating to charity.
I think these two views are at odds with each other. This makes me ask what are we here for?
Are we here to protect our investment of time and money?
Or here to be Linchpins and give the gift of our art?
Personally I see this as a chance to be remarkable and to do something meaningful.
All I have to say is:
if we are able to create a killer app that Seth Godin blogs about I'm pretty sure we won't have worry about our investment not paying off.
Yep. That's the spirit.
Check out: A Gentle Introduction to Ted Nelson's ZigZag Structure.
Starts with the front page, moves to table of contents, jumps into a section, shows the content of it, moves to a picture or video, etc. Imagine a generic App created to build something likes this, same abilities to control the presentation but different content.
Imagine a restaurant situation where the waitress is trying to explain the different food and wine selections to a person. She has a lot of options to talk about and starts with something and based on the customer answers or nods she modifies her suggestions. The Talking Pad, in my point of view, is like a restaurant menu and wine list, where all the options are always present but what you choose and the order you choose it, depends on the real time conversation. The solution will be to make the navigation, between the forest and the trees, simple, fast and intuitive.
I think this is a great use case for the Talking Pad. If we can create something that can be used for this and presentations then I think we got it!
I really like this idea for a number of applications. The coolest part is the ability to intuitively control the presentation through multitouch… and while having a standalone application for the iPad seems a little daunting, the ability to import slides from Powerpoint or Keynote would simplify that. Since non-portable OSes are integrating multitouch as well, I can see the iPad being a convenient presentation device, but licensing the technology back to run on a multitouch enabled laptop would be potentially lucrative.
Can you even imagine how cool it would be to teach a high school algebra class with what amounts to a portable chalkboard in your hand? No more facing away from the class! You can carry it with you and demonstrate a problem "on the board" while sitting next to the student in the back row that asked the question. You can archive every class and post it online in its entirety or edit it with additional links to connect to past or future class discussions.
For presentations, this really frees the presenter to be a lot more flexible. No more accidentally misplacing a slide and having to halt everything as you click forward and back… assuming the index is reasonably well constructed. You can be more off-the-cuff without sacrificing the ability to look well prepared since you can load up a reserve of material to illustrate a point, but the non-linear nature means that you don't have to use it. Now, instead of each presentation being a recital, it can be the equivalent of a performance by a bar band. When people start shouting for Louie Louie, you're ready with the chords and lyrics even if you had planned on a set of Styx and Foreigner tunes.
Heck, one can imagine the eventual ability to use such a comfortable and intuitive interface to edit video in the same way that djs can mix live music.
Tom Mink Said "Can you even imagine how cool it would be to teach a high school algebra class with what amounts to a portable chalkboard in your hand? No more facing away from the class! You can carry it with you and demonstrate a problem "on the board" while sitting next to the student in the back row that asked the question. You can archive every class and post it online in its entirety or edit it with additional links to connect to past or future class discussions."
Erm, yes, because I already do. I use a tablet PC and export to pdf. And the students have actual A4 sized whiteboards (laminated card with drywipe pens or you can buy stiffer boards from educational suppliers) and I can check that they all are getting the answers correct very quickly. We use 'u' shaped classroom layouts.
I'm imagining what a class set of iPads could do with some kind of web based whiteboarding software. But I'd also like to get group work going with instant web reference material available!
Its a good idea. However, has a potential to overwhelm the user if the presentation becomes more than handful of slides. Think number of permutations and paths.
Couple of ways this could be resolved…
1. Predefined user paths (e.g., page 1 then page 3 etc) with ability to jump to a random page and then come back to the path
2. Multiple such paths per presentation
I think an easy solution would be to create this non-linear path model for Apple's keynote and MS Powerpoint. An easier solution to develop I believe.
I think thats why the number of slides should be limited. If you have 9 slides in a grid and the slide you are looking at is in the middle then you navigate to any of the other 8. You add more slides and the challenge of navigation gets a lot harder.